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The Newsroom 1.5: Amen

It's February 2011 and News Night is covering the Egyptian uprising. As the team try to get good footage from Cairo and keep reporters safe, Maggie breaks the Wisconsin protest story. Don has big Valentine's plans for Maggie, which prompts her to prop up Jim's and Lisa's night. Sloan coaches Mac on economics. Mac learns her production choices have made her appear unethical, which puts her in the cross-hairs of TMI's Nina Howard.

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marymary
Jul. 23rd, 2012 03:42 am (UTC)
BEST LINE DON'T EVEN ARGUE WITH ME OKAY:

Maggie: "Come on come on come on... I'm about to have my Broadcast News moment. There are at least nine things between here and the control room I can trip over."

\o/ Such joy on my sofa.

And it really was very BN. (Even before she said that, I was hearing "Bobby Bobby Bobby..." in my head. :)
gatsbyfan
Jul. 23rd, 2012 03:45 am (UTC)
That was the highlight of the episode for me. :) Loved that line so much.
marymary
Jul. 23rd, 2012 03:53 am (UTC)
Things I loved:

- Neal

- Charlie in the morning guy's ear.

- Charlie kissing Elliot because he can't hug him.

- Will's reaction to Nina saying "We are journalists..." I made some kind of "Oooh, GURL" face when I heard her say that.

- The "It's a Wonderful Life" moment at the end. I honestly don't know why they insisted on saying that was about Rudy. Folks were all teeming through the door to toss money at him to help him with a debt they felt was unfair to him. That's IAWL! Or maybe the show was trying to invoke both movies, with the Rudy and "George Bailey" mentions throughout.

One thing I didn't understand: Charlie benching Elliot. I didn't think they had to make Elliot's beating the story -- they could tell the right story. But keeping him off the air when he's able seems just as false as putting him on to boost ratings or sympathy.
tomfoolery815
Jul. 23rd, 2012 04:53 am (UTC)
- Will's reaction to Nina saying "We are journalists..." I made some kind of "Oooh, GURL" face when I heard her say that.
Yeah, Mary, I think we all knew she stepped on the trip wire there. :)

That's IAWL! Or maybe the show was trying to invoke both movies, with the Rudy and "George Bailey" mentions throughout.
I'd say so, that they were trying to invoke both.

One thing I didn't understand: Charlie benching Elliot. I didn't think they had to make Elliot's beating the story -- they could tell the right story. But keeping him off the air when he's able seems just as false as putting him on to boost ratings or sympathy.
One of the things I find myself, from time to time, attempting to persuade my colleagues of is the idea that "we are not the news." For me, it's obviously on a much smaller scale: Not overplaying things that we (my newspaper) are doing or have done, like winning awards or hiring new people. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose, but for me it's a matter of journalistic principle.

I think that's what was happening with Elliot: Charlie benched him because we (ACN) are not the news, and putting him on the air with his badly beaten face would detract from ACN's ability to bring its viewers the news.

Don wanted to put him on the air A) to tell people that this is what is happening to journalists in Egypt and B) Show the viewers and Rush Limbaugh and any other asshole who says "lamestream media" that we are actually ready to bleed to get the story. There's also C) Making Don feel better about sending Elliot on that assignment. None of those are good enough reasons to put Elliot back on the air. Because we are not the news.

Fixed because tone can be miscontrued online, can't it?

Edited at 2012-07-23 05:06 am (UTC)
tomfoolery815
Jul. 23rd, 2012 05:04 am (UTC)
Oh, and I also liked the further deRoyification of Don in this episode. I thought Thomas Sadoski was excellent in this one, as was the guy who plays Elliot. (runs to IMDb) David Harbour.

- Charlie kissing Elliot because he can't hug him.
Terribly sweet. Reminded me of Jed and Leo in the emergency room at GW. (Edited to add) But a GIF on Tumblr just reminded me of what he said when he kissed him: "Elliot, don't ever fucking do that again." Ha! It's not NBC, it's HBO.

-- I was amused by Jim's serial cluelessness with regard to Maggie's Lisa-related machinations, and regarding Valentine Day's in general. I thought it was, unsurprisingly, executed well by JGJr., and the actors playing opposite him: Mostly Alison Pill, who was funnier in this one then she was in the first 4 for me, but I like that they gave Chris Chalk, the guy who plays Gary Cooper, more to do this week:

JIM: [exposition about Lisa's booty calls] ... what do I say to that?
GARY (walking past): You say yes!

-- Loved the whole bit about Sloan (Sam) giving Mackenzie (C.J.) a crash course in economics (the census). I didn't know much about Olivia Munn going in, but I like what she's done with Sloan.

Edited at 2012-07-23 05:09 am (UTC)
tuesday_suit
Aug. 15th, 2012 01:10 am (UTC)
-- Loved the whole bit about Sloan (Sam) giving Mackenzie (C.J.) a crash course in economics (the census). I didn't know much about Olivia Munn going in, but I like what she's done with Sloan.

Yes. I want to see Mac get asked how many people live in the United States.

Speaking of C.J. - I went to a briefing yesterday and there was a page in the handout that actually mentioned a Tiger Team (capitalization theirs). Reminded me of "Liftoff."
tomfoolery815
Aug. 15th, 2012 06:56 am (UTC)
TUESYDARLING! Please talk to us here more often. :)

Speaking of C.J. - I went to a briefing yesterday and there was a page in the handout that actually mentioned a Tiger Team (capitalization theirs). Reminded me of "Liftoff."
Awesome. I love "Liftoff" so much, because that's the episode where it finally felt like our show came back to us. ("The Supremes" being a notable exception in a long, dark period. But YMMV.)
tuesday_suit
Aug. 16th, 2012 12:38 am (UTC)
Please talk to us here more often. :)

I will, once I get caught up. I really like this show.....but I find that my standards for good TV aren't terribly high. I guess I'm easy.
anatolealice
Aug. 16th, 2012 04:17 am (UTC)
Hee!

ETA, I also really like the show. I sure wouldn't bother watching it if I didn't, much less commenting. Life's too short!

Edited at 2012-08-16 07:48 am (UTC)
arraydesign
Jul. 23rd, 2012 10:00 pm (UTC)
favorite moment
well, yes..the 9 different things on the way to the control room, but my true favorite was Will ripping the heart in half and then, without pausing, re-posting on the door.Beautifully under played.
marymary
Jul. 23rd, 2012 10:37 pm (UTC)
Tom, I do get what you're saying about "we're not the news," I guess I just take Don's side of it (point A, not the other two).

And yes, I loved that Jim/Gary interaction too. :)

Yes, Olivia Munn is great, I agree. I mostly know her from Daily Show; she's sort of a geek princess.

Funny Olivia Munn moment inside my head: She's in Magic Mike and her character has a brief topless scene. No surprise -- she's gorgeous that way too. But I had a giggle realizing how few straight men (the target audience of her breasts, presumably) would dare to see Magic Mike in the theater. :)

...my true favorite was Will ripping the heart in half and then, without pausing, re-posting on the door.Beautifully under played.

I loved that too! Thanks for reminding us.
tomfoolery815
Jul. 24th, 2012 01:05 am (UTC)
Yes, Olivia Munn is great, I agree. I mostly know her from Daily Show; she's sort of a geek princess.
I must have missed all the times she was on. Seriously. (I love TDS, but I am a sporadic watcher.)

Funny Olivia Munn moment inside my head: She's in Magic Mike and her character has a brief topless scene. No surprise -- she's gorgeous that way too.
Umm, yes, I had heard something about that. :)

But I had a giggle realizing how few straight men (the target audience of her breasts, presumably)
Presumably. :)

would dare to see Magic Mike in the theater. :)
Ha! I've heard it's a pretty good movie. (Loved your "Citizen Kane" line about it on Twitter.) But since I go to so few movies in the theater, I guess I'll be waiting until it hits HBO to be ... targeted. :)
marymary
Jul. 24th, 2012 02:06 am (UTC)
One person online said something smart and true: She said MM is marketed wrong -- it's marketed as a romcom with stripping, but it's actually an indie with stripping.

And there's actually not, like THAT much stripping. There really isn't -- if I had directed it instead of Soderbergh there would have been way more. For someone like you, it's well worth seeing OM topless.

Put another way, watching MM is very, very least straight men owe straight women for all the female strippers we've seen in movies over the years. :)
tomfoolery815
Jul. 24th, 2012 02:15 am (UTC)
There really isn't -- if I had directed it instead of Soderbergh there would have been way more.
Hee! No doubt. :)

Put another way, watching MM is very, very least straight men owe straight women for all the female strippers we've seen in movies over the years. :)
Absolutely! Magic Mike doesn't balance the scales, but at least it moves the one side upward a bit. When I heard about the abundance of male skin, I did honestly think "well, that is only fair." :)
anatolealice
Aug. 11th, 2012 01:28 pm (UTC)
Strangely, gay men are still super intrigued by boobs. A few of my gay guy friends have talked more about mine than any straight guy has. I'd have nights where I felt like they were a separate member of the group.
tomfoolery815
Jul. 25th, 2012 05:35 am (UTC)
I like John Gallagher Jr. even more after reading this interview. Of TWW interest: He nearly accidentally killed RS, BW and JaMo.

http://www.vulture.com/2012/07/newsroom-john-gallagher-jr-interview.html
arraydesign
Jul. 27th, 2012 12:23 am (UTC)
oooh thanks for posting that link. That was a great interview.
marymary
Jul. 27th, 2012 01:23 am (UTC)
And thanks for commenting! For some reason I didn't get an email notification when Tom posted the link, so I would have missed it if you hadn't said something. :)
marymary
Jul. 27th, 2012 01:21 am (UTC)
I agree, Tom, great interview! Thanks.

(JGJ) I’m right there with you. I’m saying, “Gosh, when are they going to get together? It’s ridiculous.”

Yes, John, it IS ridiculous. Because everybody's hearts have been on everybody's sleeves since like episode 2 of this show. As I said, no subtext. If we know how everyone feels and THEY know how everyone feels, then yes, might as well get them together.

I honestly don't get it. It's like Aaron is trying to make them live in that tiny space that normally happens between UST and RST, just after two characters tell each other how they feel.

(JGJ) What’s great about it is that throughout the rest of the season — and last night was a big turning point — you really start to see Don’s veneer begin to crack. You start to see his vulnerabilities and his insecurities, not only about where he fits in at ACN but also in his relationship.

That's really good to read and I think it's what we've started to see. I like the Don character more each week -- not that he's nicer, but that he's more relatable and more interesting and Thomas Sadoski does a better and better job.
anatolealice
Aug. 11th, 2012 02:00 pm (UTC)
I enjoyed Neal having a larger role and getting some backstory. Though I have to believe he he's gotten used to using US vocab because it's easier for everyone because his description of what happened in the bombings used words I had to switch back in my head to make it sound right. I liked hearing of something good coming from that day though it was hard hearing it, my friend Christabel was on another train ( I'm presuming Neal was closer and actually knew what had happened because the stories that went around at the time for most people were about power surges and derailments, on the ones deep in tunnels they didn't immediately know it was a bomb).

I didn't understand why he was never going to get a degree though. He's super smart and the UK has the Open University if he couldn't afford time out to be in school full time.

Oh and Ahmen (sp?) had very shiny white teeth!

Edited at 2012-08-11 02:04 pm (UTC)
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